Media Appearances

Minute 32: In this quick, 12-minute interview, I share:

  • The foundational principles of relationship turnaround for only ONE partner
  • How to recover if you’ve “lost” yourself in your relationship
  • Why NO relationship was a mistake!
  • Why neither person needs to “work on” themselves!

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The Unstoppable Changemaker Podcast

Join Bakytgul, Nicholas and Deborah as we explore one of the most powerful frameworks for seeing and understanding ourselves and the world around us.